Thursday, October 02, 2008

What do you Think?


I'm curious what everyone thinks, whether you're Republican, Democrat, or Other. ;-) I'm pretty sure everyone knows who I'm voting for, but I'm still interested in hearing what everyone else is thinking, no matter who you want to vote for.

I have to read the transcripts tomorrow. I'm not good at learning aurally. I understood and processed most everything Joe Biden talked about, but I never can understand Palin.

I had to miss two parts of it. I'm housesitting again. It's like a vacation. :-)

The fact that Joe Biden knows what it's like to have his father leave because there were no local jobs really related him to me. DH is not my father, but I think the hole left is not one you ever forget.

Good news: He might be home early! He might be home on Monday or Tuesday instead of Thursday. I can't WAIT! I'm so happy. We can talk by phone now, which is a change from online messaging for most of the last four months.

It's SO good to hear his voice.

I survive while he's gone. When we're together, I thrive. We're supposed to be together, you know? We're like two halves.

Anyway, I'm impressed with Joe Biden, really impressed. I can also give Palin credit: she did tons better than she did with Couric.

It's hard for me to disagree with her because I just can't follow her like I can Biden. I'm not sure if that's because I have an attention span of a pea, if it's because I'm better at learning visually, or if she talked in circles again.

I know everyone hear can't possibly be an Obama supporter. I'm interested in hearing from both sides, because I know so many of us are quite passionate about the outcome of this election. So many of us are worried about the immediate future of our country. So many of us are hoping this election will make a big change for us.

I'm curious: what issues are most important to you? Why are you voting for who you've chosen? Are you yet undecided? Why are you undecided? What is going to influence your decision?

I'm not asking so I can debate your answer. I just want to hear what you think. :-)

28 bonus scribbles:

Heather Harper 10/02/2008 11:27:00 PM  

I honestly don't know what to think. She was stiff at first and then relaxed. Thought she gained points midway. I think she's likeable, but I don't think she's ready to step in as President if she had to.

I don't dislike Biden. I do dislike politics. Spin and lies make me queesy and they are all guilty. I don't trust any of them.

Still don't know who to vote for. Doesn't matter, though. McCain will take my state.

Sparky Duck 10/02/2008 11:57:00 PM  

You betcha she lost, ya know, like golly. And a shout out to Calvary Elementary School

Robin 10/03/2008 12:03:00 AM  

I am so bummed. I couldn't even enjoy my popcorn. I don't think it's you, Spy - Palin seemed to talk in sound bytes and circles, and her grammar was often unintelligible.

That being said, she held her own and did a credible job. She was likable, and not half as dumb as I thought. In fact, she was downright sneaky. I was hoping for her to be more of a liability for McCain than she was.

Gosh darn it. Shout out to Wyomissing Highschool! Woo hoo!

Aimless Writer 10/03/2008 07:27:00 AM  

Sarah was well prepped but still resorted to her key phrases and buzz words when she didn't know the answer. She talks in circles constantly and never gives a direct answer. When she does this I have to think; Does she think we're stupid? Do we want a person in power who never gives a straight answer?
Biden was well spoken and he had all the answers to the questions. I like that he knows what he talks about. I don't get that feel from Palin.
McCain missed 65% of his votes in congress. In Alaska members of Palin's own legislature wore "Where's Sarah" buttons because she was AWOL from work so many times.
I am a Democrat but I have voted for the other side in the past. I mostly go by who I think will do the best job. This time I think Obama and Biden are better prepared to lead.

Mark Terry 10/03/2008 07:35:00 AM  

We watched the debate on CNN instead of ABC and they had a group of undecided Ohio voters off in a room and they were given a control doohockie that they turned to the right when they agreed with something and to the left when they didn't. As you watched the debate, below the screen you could watch the lines for men and for women and it was like watching an EKG going up and down. We both noted that women seemed to like Biden a lot, much less so Palin. In fact, I don't think they liked her "folksie" attempts--which annoyed the shit out of me, but I'm not in her fan club anyway--but seemed to like when she directly addressed the camera.

I don't know how ABC handled it, but CNN would print the actual question on the top of the screen as they were talking and it was a great reminder because you'd realize pretty quickly that Palin didn't actually answer the question. And she didn't answer the actual question a LOT.

I was impressed with Biden.

Leigh Russell 10/03/2008 09:17:00 AM  

I'm ashamed to admit this, but I was faintly disappointed that the two players didn't give us a more entertaining show... more amusing faux pas - oh, sorry, are we all supposed to be taking politicians seriously these days?

Edie 10/03/2008 11:11:00 AM  

Palin wasn't a disaster, but like other commenters have said, she didn't answer the questions. It was obvious that she didn't know the answers.

Biden was really good, IMO. I connected with him and admired him.

Melanie Avila 10/03/2008 11:13:00 AM  

I mentioned this on my blog, too. I'm not a Palin supporter but I was very happy to see her do a decent job. I couldn't figure out why the Republican party chose her and her performance last night showed a little of the reason why. I agree that she never answered a question, but I can understand a little better why people like her.

I thought Biden did a wonderful job.

Kath Calarco 10/03/2008 11:28:00 AM  

Palin did a great job remembering everything that most likely had been crammed down her throat in preparation for the debate. That said, the ability to memorize and retain information isn't the same as actually possessing the knowledge and understanding the facts.

Personally, I found her folksy talk condescending, and her reference to the middle-class as "Joe Six Pack" demeaning to those of us in the middle-class.

Erica Orloff 10/03/2008 11:41:00 AM  

She did better than anyone expected her to. And I despise her as a traitor to women, so you know where my vote is going. The SECOND a woman who allowed rape victims to be charged for their own rape kits in Wasilla goes up against the man who designed the Violence Against Women act . . . my mind is made up.

LaDonna 10/03/2008 12:57:00 PM  

Well, I think we need to haul a huge vaccum cleaner to the Big House and turn the sucker up full blast! That aside, Palin didn't fall on her face entirely, but I it was obviously she avoided direct questions. She's not capable imo at this point of holding such a high office, and I don't agree with her politics. I want change, and I'm afraid the McCain ticket will be like taking a piggy-back ride with Bush.

Does anyone think Barney Frank looks like the Godfather on a bad day?

Virginia Lady 10/03/2008 03:31:00 PM  

I agree that she did much better than expected, but then she didn't answer the questions, she just said what she wanted to say.

No one's mentioned it, but at one point she referred to Biden as Obiden. A clear sign she was getting rattled by the debate. Disappointing since she's supposed to be such a great debater and he really was easy on her. There were several times he could have nailed her but he let them go.

I think Biden was the clear winner. I too did not like Palin's attempts to 'connect' with the middle class. It felt contrived and fake and condescending.

Biden commutes daily between Delaware and DC, like many other middle class folks, whether he's middle class or not, I think it gives him a feel for that life. Certainly more than her $225K/yr. family income and life as a Governor.

I also really disliked how she accused him of being a Washington Insider that talks around the questions when that's exactly what she had been doing. The claimed to give straight answers, but rarely ever even answered a question. The idea that she thinks we're stupid enough not to notice the hypocrisy of her accusation really annoys me.

I am truly disappointed in McCain's choice for a running mate, the idea of her as President scares me more than I can say. I had expected more of him.

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 03:48:00 PM  

Heather, I hear you on the politics. You know, sometimes I feel like they "sell" to us like we're stupid idiots, common cattle who will follow if they repeat the buzzwords enough.

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 03:49:00 PM  

ROFL, Sparky! Some of those cutesy lines were obviously rehearsed, ya' know?

That cutesy act thing, when her voice sounds like Tina Fey's parody? That annoys me, LOL.

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 03:49:00 PM  

Robin, you're on the money. I really wanted to crack up and see some entertainment!

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 03:50:00 PM  

Aimless, I think she does. I think she thinks if she repeats "maverick" enough times, our brains will become mindlessly programmed to think of them as mavericks, whether they are or aren't.

Karen Olson 10/03/2008 04:40:00 PM  

I think someone who supports the war in Iraq is not leading the country forward. And a $5000 a year health plan tax credit to buy your own insurance? Some people spend that a month for health insurance. Those two things are really the only specifics that McCain and Palin have given us. They can't even say they'll drill, baby, drill in Alaska because McCain's against that!

Troopergate may be coming home to roost. An Alaska judge ruled yesterday that the investigation cannot be blocked and a report will be made. A great Alaska blogger is reporting on that and all other things Alaska and Palin at

Obama is the future. Truly the future. His presidency will take us forward. We need universal health care, we need alternative energy resources, we need better education, we need to get those taxes out of rich folks who send their money offshore to avoid paying like the rest of us.

Also, I do NOT want "the mom next door" in the White House. I want someone smarter than that. I wasn't a fan of Hillary's but she knew what she was talking about and could be president tomorrow. Palin? Absolutely not. It's frightening.

The woman doesn't even seem to know what she reads!

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 04:42:00 PM  

Oh man, I didn't know, Mark! I shoulda watched it on CNN. Ohio? I feel famous!

The folksie stuff is about the most annoying stuff I've ever seen in my life. It's even worse than Bush's guy-next-door routine in 2000.

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 04:52:00 PM  

Leigh, I'm not ashamed to admit it: I was looking forward to a good laugh. I really was. It was disappointing!

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 04:53:00 PM  

Edie, me, too. I didn't know much about him or his policies, but I thought to myself that I'd definitely vote for him in eight years, and I wouldn't feel the country would be in worse shape if he were to become president.

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 04:54:00 PM  

Melanie, she was much better, you're right. Her whole folksie shtick doesn't do it for me, but she does have charisma. Have you YouTubed her at rallies? She's REALLY GOOD with a crowd. McCain wasn't just saying that.

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 04:56:00 PM  

Kath, I've been befuddled by that expression. I don't get it. Is that really supposed to make us connect with her? Astonishing how out of touch she really is!

I find her repetition of keywords and phrases annoying, as if someone told her "just say these over and over and the stupid public will nod and vote for us!"

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 05:02:00 PM  

Erica, did you hear McCain's rape joke? I don't care if it was "years ago" and "McCain will be McCain" and he was only "49 at the time." (WTF?) It was simply not funny.

Here it is:

"Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, ‘Where is that marvelous ape?’"

In WHAT WORLD is that funny? It's not even funny in a tasteless sort of way.

I've been YouTubing McCain lately, and to me, he's even scarier than Palin. And I would hate having Palin as president. McCain cracks jokes about killing Iranians, he loses his temper, he belittles people. I don't know how the American people don't watch this stuff.

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 05:05:00 PM  

But, but, but, LaDonna, didn't you hear her say? She's a maverick. He's a maverick. They're about "new energy," "new ways," and a "new era."

(Did the sarcasm make it through the internet, LOL?) :-)

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 05:08:00 PM  

Virginia, I never truly considered him, however, I did respect him from afar. I really did. Was it just me, or did he seem to completely change? He doesn't strike me as the candidate he was six months ago.

His choice of Palin does still shock me. What he says is true, though: she's amazing at rallies.

Lately, I've been YouTubing Mccain, and he scares me.

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 05:12:00 PM  


PS: Good catch! I didn't notice that slip!

spyscribbler 10/03/2008 05:14:00 PM  

Karen, THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I've been meaning to rant on that, but there's been so many other things.

You're absolutely right. And I haven't seen the details, but he said this $5,000 plan is for a family of FOUR. FOUR! I think the cheapest the TWO of us have been quoted was $8,400 a year, and that's for TWO of us, not FOUR!

"Obama is the future. Truly the future. His presidency will take us forward. We need universal health care, we need alternative energy resources, we need better education, we need to get those taxes out of rich folks who send their money offshore to avoid paying like the rest of us."

Karen, I am PRAYING this will be so. I really am. I am actually thinking of going to the cathedral, lighting a candle, and staying on my knees the whole day.

That's pretty crazy, coming from me. I've been to the cathedral once in the last ten years. But that's how much I'm worried about this country.

Melanie Avila 10/05/2008 01:29:00 PM  

Virginia - I DID hear her say Obiden but I thought I imagined it. Good lord.